A Facebook friend recently appealed to us to join a movement for boycotting Chinese stores, in protest against the fact that the Chinese have dogs stolen to eat them. This high-profile friend regularly saves dogs from being exported to Angola and other sites for nefarious purposes. She had trouble imagining why the need for fighting dogs and protectors included Jack Russells, and it was explained to her that those were for the Chinese to eat. If that is your thing, I can imagine that the stocky, muscled body of a Jack Russell could be attractive as a delicacy.
However, since eating dogs is not our South African thing, the suggestion was to boycott the shops, to which I pointed out that:
1. The Chinese shopkeepers won't even notice if the percentage of South Africans that cared about the matter boycotted their shops.
2. Even if they knew, they would not respond to such a boycott.
3. Engaging with the Chinese in a confrontational and accusing manner would not have the desired effect.
Anyone who has tried to communicate with a Chinese shopkeeper would be able to identify with the ensuing frustration: they refuse to learn English, to start with, and even if they do know SOME English, they can easily pretend not to, just shrugging and ringing up the sales. For communicating with customers they rely on badly paid shop assistants - in KZN they pay R160-R200 per week - whose English, in most cases, is quite bad also. So one wanders around, looking for the stuff you want, checking the price and paying without much chatting about the weather etc.
If only dealing with Chinese shopkeepers were that easy. If they were confined to their shops and didn't touch any other areas of South African life, the matter would end there. And that seems to be their preferred manner of interaction, as Chinese food stores and even shopping areas are cropping up and enforcing the separation between "them" and "us". But then there are the dogs, and other things that bother us. And the things that bother them. More about my ex Mandarin teacher later.
This blog hopes to contribute (tatataraaahhh) to an understanding of how Chinese people think, and to contribute to facilitating communication. For the sake of the dogs, which will remain the main focus for the purpose of illustration. And otherwise.
According to Fred Jandt (Intercultural Communication: An Introduction, Chapter 2: Communication as an element of culture), to whom I owe the academic articulation of some of this blog, one of the differences between Western communication and the Confucian model, is the importance of the listener relative to the speaker.
Speaking, in many communication theories, and practices, is seen as more active and therefore more important than listening. Listening plays a subordinate role in Western communication, but in cultures where the group's history is "told and retold verbally, the role of the listener who accurately remembers is critically important" (Jandt, p 31). Do the Chinese in South Africa seem instinctively drawn to dealing with black rather than white customers and associates? Is it only a market force, or shared corruption, or do they share more than the supply and demand of cheap products?
In Confucianism, the tradition that underlies thought patterns in China, Korea and Singapore, among others, communication would be defined as an infinite interpretive process where all parties are searching to develop and maintain a social relationship (Jandt, p 32). Whereas in the Western tradition (which is almost imperialistically gaining ground in South Africa) communication is "directed ...toward the extension of messages in space..." the Confucian model sees it as " the maintenance of society in time; not the act of imparting information but the representation of shared beliefs" (Carey 1989 p 18, quoted in Jandt).
SO! Any irate South African approaching Chinese shopkeepers about the matter of eating of dogs would have to think quite a few times about how to get the message across. The obvious thing to point out is that if YOU believe that eating dogs (especially someone's pet) is not nice and the Chinese believe that is IS nice, you are not sharing a belief there, and you would have to find other points of common interest to get your outrage across effectively. Let's look at the elements of Confucianist culture, as described by Jandt, one by one to explore ways of getting through to Chinese minds:
1. Particularism is of great importance in Confucianism. The same rules do not apply to everyone, and there are different communication rules governing interaction with people of different status and intimacy. Context also plays a huge role. There are no rules about someone whose status is not known. If the person you try to communicate with does not know your name, age, background and status relative to theirs, you will not able to reasonably predict their reaction. In fact, strangers may be ignored - which would seem rude to US - until they are properly introduced. Which may take time and some tea-drinking. Imagine, in that context, the effect of a kwaai tannie going up to the nearest shopkeeper and demanding that they stop stealing dogs (assuming basic understanding of English).
2. Intermediaries are of great importance and rituals must be followed in establishing relationships. The same tannie is not only unknown to the shopkeeper, but has barged in and demanded, in what seemed to her a friendly manner, that the shopkeeper and his associates stop stealing dogs and eating them. But "much of commercial life in China is lubricated by guanxi, a concept best translated as "connections" or "personal relationships" (Jandt, p33). Someone who has gone past the shopkeeper and rubbed his baby's head a few times would have much more of a chance to be heard. (That is universal, not only Confucianist.) And someone who comes with a friend or business associate has even more of a chance to be heard. (The shop assistants wouldn't count, as they are of a subordinate status). Even in Western communication someone who is known and trusted would find a more receptive ear, so finding a way to establish relationships with Chinese shopkeepers would go a long way towards better understanding, sharing of concerns and protecting the pets. In Free State rural areas the Chinese communities are offering free Mandarin classes - it would be nice to have feedback on whether anyone is offering them free English classes. I certainly intend doing that in the new year - reaching out and being friendly (instead of judgmental and suspicious) is the only way to influence many areas of concern.
3. Reciprocity. The above deals with that to a certain extent. In Confucianism, complementary obligations are the base of relationships, which is contrary to Western ideas of individuality but resonates with the African view of things.
4. Ingroup/outgroup distinction. This needs a whole chapter by itself (will follow one of these days), but suffice it to point out the obvious (again) here: if you are not one of "them", they can steal your dogs any time they want, and lie to you about it also (for EXAMPLE!!), as the rules governing ingroup relationships do not apply to you. So, become part of the ingroup - it means engaging in freer and deeper talk.
5.Overlap of personal and public relationships. More of the same: frequent contacts lead to common experiences. Business and pleasure are mixed, which contrasts with Western patterns of keeping public and private lives separate.
Jandt summarises: The collectivist values of Confucianism mandate a style of communication in which respecting the relationship through communication is more important than the information exchanged. Group harmony, avoidance of loss of face to others and oneself, and a modest presentation of oneself are means of respecting the relationship. One does not say what one actually thinks when it might hurt others in the group (p33).
I can hear the tannies remonstrating furiously: "Yes, but this is OUR country and OUR territory and OUR rules apply!" To which I would reply:
1. Do you want them to stop stealing and eating your dogs?
2. What does "OUR RULES" refer to: African thinking, or Western thinking?
3. Is it SO bad to establish relationships with people? The Chinese are here to stay. Is it not better to have good relationships with them rather than to perpetuate prejudice (someone said on Facebook: "I saw a funeral procession of theirs: they are devils!"), suspicion and resentment?
I don't mind making myself a case in point: eager to increase the language proficiency base, I contracted a Mandarin teacher for myself and my daughter. State schools in our neck of the woods have not woken up to the benefits of learning Mandarin yet, so we have to take matters in our own hands. The teacher, a chubby Taiwanese who is a very good teacher whom I would recommend to anyone, arrived bearing his own coffee flask. Alert to these signals, I immediately knew that it meant he would not want to drink any of our possibly contaminated offerings, probably prepared in an offensive manner. I let that one pass. I had also, previously, let it pass that he was VERY thin-skinned and aggressive to my enquiry as to whether he was a "real" Chinese, as we communicated by email and he introduced himself as ..."western name"...So we had a magical time, for about three months, learning and imitating his tonal instructions. After around two months, he invited us to his home to have tea with his wife. It was a Sunday afternoon, and my car had a horrible, unidentified wheel problem in the morning. I couldn't have it repaired and thus could not travel to his house, so I phoned to cancel. Big mistake, but nothing I could have done differently. That gesture of his, to come closer to us and draw us into the ingroup, so to speak, was very important, and in his eyes I had not done enough to honour his hospitality. Relations deteriorated after that. Nobody had done anything wrong in his or her own eyes, but I learnt later that he had the same violent reaction to other students not rocking up for an invitation. I tried to explain that he shouldn't take it personally, that it wasn't meant to insult him, but I had already lost credibility myself by not turning up. We all had the best of intentions, but missed each other.
Another time I was invited for lunch at the home of Korean English students. I was asked whether I could see myself living in Korea, and answered truthfully (I am a Christian and they were Presbyterian students at Stellenbosch's "kweekskool") that I didn't think so, because I couldn't imagine living in a country where people eat dogs. (That is obviously why I had to STUDY intercultural communication...) The rest of the lunch was eaten in hurt silence, after the pastor father-of-the-house explained to me that Koreans didn't eat their pet dogs, but had farms where certain species were bred for the high protein content that convalescents and others with compromised health needed, and that Koreans NEVER ate sheep or lambs, as they were considered gentle animals that wouldn't hurt anyone. I STILL feel bad about that one, twenty years later.
It is vitally important for those of us interested in bringing about change and reconciliation to fast-track an understanding of how other people think and see things. The Chinese are still seen as an invasion, an undesirable group that we secretly benefit from (or not), but looking at how we can improve communication with them, to the benefit of all involved (including the dogs), will lead to sensitivity to other groups' ideas and viewpoints as well.
At the heart of many of our real and perceived problems in South Africa is the Western tendency to draw lines, classify according to Aristotelian principles, to individualise and label. That thing doesn't work any more. Maybe it is time to remember that a little guanxi (UBUNTU?) goes a long way, and that to insist otherwise will hasten relationships going to the dogs.
However, since eating dogs is not our South African thing, the suggestion was to boycott the shops, to which I pointed out that:
1. The Chinese shopkeepers won't even notice if the percentage of South Africans that cared about the matter boycotted their shops.
2. Even if they knew, they would not respond to such a boycott.
3. Engaging with the Chinese in a confrontational and accusing manner would not have the desired effect.
Anyone who has tried to communicate with a Chinese shopkeeper would be able to identify with the ensuing frustration: they refuse to learn English, to start with, and even if they do know SOME English, they can easily pretend not to, just shrugging and ringing up the sales. For communicating with customers they rely on badly paid shop assistants - in KZN they pay R160-R200 per week - whose English, in most cases, is quite bad also. So one wanders around, looking for the stuff you want, checking the price and paying without much chatting about the weather etc.
If only dealing with Chinese shopkeepers were that easy. If they were confined to their shops and didn't touch any other areas of South African life, the matter would end there. And that seems to be their preferred manner of interaction, as Chinese food stores and even shopping areas are cropping up and enforcing the separation between "them" and "us". But then there are the dogs, and other things that bother us. And the things that bother them. More about my ex Mandarin teacher later.
This blog hopes to contribute (tatataraaahhh) to an understanding of how Chinese people think, and to contribute to facilitating communication. For the sake of the dogs, which will remain the main focus for the purpose of illustration. And otherwise.
According to Fred Jandt (Intercultural Communication: An Introduction, Chapter 2: Communication as an element of culture), to whom I owe the academic articulation of some of this blog, one of the differences between Western communication and the Confucian model, is the importance of the listener relative to the speaker.
Speaking, in many communication theories, and practices, is seen as more active and therefore more important than listening. Listening plays a subordinate role in Western communication, but in cultures where the group's history is "told and retold verbally, the role of the listener who accurately remembers is critically important" (Jandt, p 31). Do the Chinese in South Africa seem instinctively drawn to dealing with black rather than white customers and associates? Is it only a market force, or shared corruption, or do they share more than the supply and demand of cheap products?
In Confucianism, the tradition that underlies thought patterns in China, Korea and Singapore, among others, communication would be defined as an infinite interpretive process where all parties are searching to develop and maintain a social relationship (Jandt, p 32). Whereas in the Western tradition (which is almost imperialistically gaining ground in South Africa) communication is "directed ...toward the extension of messages in space..." the Confucian model sees it as " the maintenance of society in time; not the act of imparting information but the representation of shared beliefs" (Carey 1989 p 18, quoted in Jandt).
SO! Any irate South African approaching Chinese shopkeepers about the matter of eating of dogs would have to think quite a few times about how to get the message across. The obvious thing to point out is that if YOU believe that eating dogs (especially someone's pet) is not nice and the Chinese believe that is IS nice, you are not sharing a belief there, and you would have to find other points of common interest to get your outrage across effectively. Let's look at the elements of Confucianist culture, as described by Jandt, one by one to explore ways of getting through to Chinese minds:
1. Particularism is of great importance in Confucianism. The same rules do not apply to everyone, and there are different communication rules governing interaction with people of different status and intimacy. Context also plays a huge role. There are no rules about someone whose status is not known. If the person you try to communicate with does not know your name, age, background and status relative to theirs, you will not able to reasonably predict their reaction. In fact, strangers may be ignored - which would seem rude to US - until they are properly introduced. Which may take time and some tea-drinking. Imagine, in that context, the effect of a kwaai tannie going up to the nearest shopkeeper and demanding that they stop stealing dogs (assuming basic understanding of English).
2. Intermediaries are of great importance and rituals must be followed in establishing relationships. The same tannie is not only unknown to the shopkeeper, but has barged in and demanded, in what seemed to her a friendly manner, that the shopkeeper and his associates stop stealing dogs and eating them. But "much of commercial life in China is lubricated by guanxi, a concept best translated as "connections" or "personal relationships" (Jandt, p33). Someone who has gone past the shopkeeper and rubbed his baby's head a few times would have much more of a chance to be heard. (That is universal, not only Confucianist.) And someone who comes with a friend or business associate has even more of a chance to be heard. (The shop assistants wouldn't count, as they are of a subordinate status). Even in Western communication someone who is known and trusted would find a more receptive ear, so finding a way to establish relationships with Chinese shopkeepers would go a long way towards better understanding, sharing of concerns and protecting the pets. In Free State rural areas the Chinese communities are offering free Mandarin classes - it would be nice to have feedback on whether anyone is offering them free English classes. I certainly intend doing that in the new year - reaching out and being friendly (instead of judgmental and suspicious) is the only way to influence many areas of concern.
3. Reciprocity. The above deals with that to a certain extent. In Confucianism, complementary obligations are the base of relationships, which is contrary to Western ideas of individuality but resonates with the African view of things.
4. Ingroup/outgroup distinction. This needs a whole chapter by itself (will follow one of these days), but suffice it to point out the obvious (again) here: if you are not one of "them", they can steal your dogs any time they want, and lie to you about it also (for EXAMPLE!!), as the rules governing ingroup relationships do not apply to you. So, become part of the ingroup - it means engaging in freer and deeper talk.
5.Overlap of personal and public relationships. More of the same: frequent contacts lead to common experiences. Business and pleasure are mixed, which contrasts with Western patterns of keeping public and private lives separate.
Jandt summarises: The collectivist values of Confucianism mandate a style of communication in which respecting the relationship through communication is more important than the information exchanged. Group harmony, avoidance of loss of face to others and oneself, and a modest presentation of oneself are means of respecting the relationship. One does not say what one actually thinks when it might hurt others in the group (p33).
I can hear the tannies remonstrating furiously: "Yes, but this is OUR country and OUR territory and OUR rules apply!" To which I would reply:
1. Do you want them to stop stealing and eating your dogs?
2. What does "OUR RULES" refer to: African thinking, or Western thinking?
3. Is it SO bad to establish relationships with people? The Chinese are here to stay. Is it not better to have good relationships with them rather than to perpetuate prejudice (someone said on Facebook: "I saw a funeral procession of theirs: they are devils!"), suspicion and resentment?
I don't mind making myself a case in point: eager to increase the language proficiency base, I contracted a Mandarin teacher for myself and my daughter. State schools in our neck of the woods have not woken up to the benefits of learning Mandarin yet, so we have to take matters in our own hands. The teacher, a chubby Taiwanese who is a very good teacher whom I would recommend to anyone, arrived bearing his own coffee flask. Alert to these signals, I immediately knew that it meant he would not want to drink any of our possibly contaminated offerings, probably prepared in an offensive manner. I let that one pass. I had also, previously, let it pass that he was VERY thin-skinned and aggressive to my enquiry as to whether he was a "real" Chinese, as we communicated by email and he introduced himself as ..."western name"...So we had a magical time, for about three months, learning and imitating his tonal instructions. After around two months, he invited us to his home to have tea with his wife. It was a Sunday afternoon, and my car had a horrible, unidentified wheel problem in the morning. I couldn't have it repaired and thus could not travel to his house, so I phoned to cancel. Big mistake, but nothing I could have done differently. That gesture of his, to come closer to us and draw us into the ingroup, so to speak, was very important, and in his eyes I had not done enough to honour his hospitality. Relations deteriorated after that. Nobody had done anything wrong in his or her own eyes, but I learnt later that he had the same violent reaction to other students not rocking up for an invitation. I tried to explain that he shouldn't take it personally, that it wasn't meant to insult him, but I had already lost credibility myself by not turning up. We all had the best of intentions, but missed each other.
Another time I was invited for lunch at the home of Korean English students. I was asked whether I could see myself living in Korea, and answered truthfully (I am a Christian and they were Presbyterian students at Stellenbosch's "kweekskool") that I didn't think so, because I couldn't imagine living in a country where people eat dogs. (That is obviously why I had to STUDY intercultural communication...) The rest of the lunch was eaten in hurt silence, after the pastor father-of-the-house explained to me that Koreans didn't eat their pet dogs, but had farms where certain species were bred for the high protein content that convalescents and others with compromised health needed, and that Koreans NEVER ate sheep or lambs, as they were considered gentle animals that wouldn't hurt anyone. I STILL feel bad about that one, twenty years later.
It is vitally important for those of us interested in bringing about change and reconciliation to fast-track an understanding of how other people think and see things. The Chinese are still seen as an invasion, an undesirable group that we secretly benefit from (or not), but looking at how we can improve communication with them, to the benefit of all involved (including the dogs), will lead to sensitivity to other groups' ideas and viewpoints as well.
At the heart of many of our real and perceived problems in South Africa is the Western tendency to draw lines, classify according to Aristotelian principles, to individualise and label. That thing doesn't work any more. Maybe it is time to remember that a little guanxi (UBUNTU?) goes a long way, and that to insist otherwise will hasten relationships going to the dogs.